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Hand conditioning video
« on: June 18, 2024, 12:48:27 PM »

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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2024, 05:28:21 AM »
Hand conditioning i did some years ago with a Makiwara & a bag i filled with sand which was solid as a rock. The sand i got from a building site & when settled in the bag it was honestly hard.
The Makiwara i made myself with rope for padding to punch, the Makiwara was attached to the floor & i used a wood that was robust but gave a slight bend when hitting it.

I do not do this nowadays as i see no real need for it as the best places to strike are areas which do not need this type of training, i learned this in Japanese Ju Jitsu & Wado ryu karate.

Styles that are "hard" styles play a lot of emphasis on this type of training.



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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2024, 05:39:03 AM »
Canīt remember this Guyīs name ( in the video) but pretty hard training.

Thereīs also a Goju Ryu master who trains in this manner, Morio Higaonna as hard core as it gets.


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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2024, 05:53:17 AM »
Suzuki Sensei told me years ago (Wado Ryu , London) that Shotokan & Kyokushinkai  was only with power.
I didnīt understand until i trained in Wado ryu & saw the Shindo yoshin Ryu in the style.

However this is just my preference & does not undermine the "Harder" styles of karate.

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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2024, 06:26:06 AM »
Suzuki Sensei told me years ago (Wado Ryu , London) that Shotokan & Kyokushinkai  was only with power.
I didnīt understand until i trained in Wado ryu & saw the Shindo yoshin Ryu in the style.

However this is just my preference & does not undermine the "Harder" styles of karate.

I trained in Kyokushin from direct line to Mas Oyama.

The training each session consisted of the following:

1) Physical conditioning (flexibilty, knuckle pushups, situps, etc)
2) Technique practice (kicks, hand strikes, hitting bags, mitts, etc)
3) Traditional kata
4) Sparring

The weakness in Kyokushin sparring is not allowing punches to the head.
Obviously there is a logical reason for this.
However, it makes you sloppy in guarding the head.
Kicks to the head are allowed but the focus is low kicks.
In Kyokushin you get hit a lot so you get used to contact.

It's a good power based style for physically strong people.
You will get strong from the training.
The kata is traditional and basically useless for fighting but is required for belt advancement.

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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2024, 06:48:45 AM »
Canīt remember this Guyīs name ( in the video) but pretty hard training.

Thereīs also a Goju Ryu master who trains in this manner, Morio Higaonna as hard core as it gets.



From the video "Budo: The Art of Killing"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budo:_The_Art_of_Killing

Sadaharu Fujimoto is the person in the clip.

https://www.genseiryu.com/wiki/Sadaharu_Fujimoto

That is real, badass karate.

The karate taught today in McDojo's is far from that.

Too bad. 

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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2024, 07:12:07 AM »
Wado Ryu i liked & Suzuki Sensei was very friendly. I still have a letter from him.


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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2024, 08:12:00 AM »
The origins of the throwing techniques can be seen here & this is still seen in Judo, Ju Jitsu & Karate..even of course FMA.




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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2024, 02:43:19 AM »
From the video "Budo: The Art of Killing"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budo:_The_Art_of_Killing

Sadaharu Fujimoto is the person in the clip.

https://www.genseiryu.com/wiki/Sadaharu_Fujimoto

That is real, badass karate.

The karate taught today in McDojo's is far from that.

Too bad.

Yes i watched it many years ago.
Another good film was "Way of the warrior" showing Goju Ryu



even as an older man he still trained hard, imagine a Liver punch from him  :o




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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2024, 03:33:46 AM »
Interesting vids, Donny.

No fancy equipment needed...just rocks.

Morio Higaonna is 85 now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morio_Higaonna

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Re: Hand conditioning video
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2024, 07:21:23 AM »
Interesting vids, Donny.

No fancy equipment needed...just rocks.

Morio Higaonna is 85 now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morio_Higaonna

Heīs a Legend.
This is a book i can recommend in Grappling, he tought all the forbidden techniques in Kodokan Judo. Nasty stuff & iīm not even sure BJJ teach it.

 

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